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3/17/2009 4:39:20 PM
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dell_amin Posts 2
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I just wanna say you made the point. Women should start making the first step. Would be way better.
Assalam.
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4/1/2009 3:03:19 AM
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goodguy75 Posts 1
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Salam my brothers n sisters. As we all know unfortunately the divorce rate in Islam is on the rise, the q is y. Are couples divorcing because of lack of money, infidelity, double standards, deceitfulness, bored from their spouses, etc etc. The main q that we should ask is, what marriage means to them. Is it money, looks, or wanting that person who completes us n make a family, or all of the above. The ending result...marriage = maturity.
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4/2/2009 11:19:17 AM
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elmoro Posts 1
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many salams bros and sisters, I'm new here but i'm inspired by the discussion, i'd like to add a contribution.
I believe the answer to the finding the right partner is within the following:
1. Having a direct approach to the potential person: no external influence, a personal approach, do not evaluate person X based on person Y, and do not do it with the eutopian idea of a person Z. That's simply futile to a relationship. 2. Acknowledging the imperfections of ourselves, before we find imperfections in others 3. You must expect to give, as much as, you're going to take. Its all about compromise, the middle ground, the happy middle; there are many middle grounds but not all are happy, look for the sincerely happy one. 4. Do not judge, Allah is the only judge, people change, and we can never know the full truth, we have to trust, yes we can be lied to; but subhana Allah we can not know/calculate everything 5. Ask all the questions, but refrain from unfair grounds (the ones that mean nothing, but only hurt the heart, because you've an 'emotional' attachment to their answers. You know which ones they are) 6. Have standards, achievable ones, ranked from most important to least important. Do not get stuck in mapping people in an excel sheet, people and their attributes are much more than bullet-points. 7. Understand: people are different, its the way Allah made us, accept it, live it. 8. Remove your baggage, remove the veils of truth from your eyes, remove racism (why did Allah create so many different people and tribes? we know the answer, looking it up). 9. Just because someone is a muslim; it does not mean they are a representative of an imaginary partner in your mind. Look carefully, but do not get caught in looking, evaluate, rationalize, invest yourself in the matter, otherwise back to square 1. 10. Do not settle, but remember life on earth is temporary, and so is everything in it - do not waste your chances, but do not choose carelessly. If you seek, and pray for help, you'll get it. It is as simple as that. Allah does not change what's upon us; until we change what's inside us. If you know that you need to be a better muslim, man, woman or anything, then do not wait, do it. Pray for help and guidance in the process. Allah will answer you.
I'm one of you here, i wish us all khair, and i hope my contribution will enlighten someone, i know your contributions have enlightened me, thank you!
Salam edited by elmoro on 4/2/2009
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4/23/2009 4:04:30 PM
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BOBIE Posts 2
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Unfortunatetly, I think that so many women and men are single because some people forget that the only important thing is to be Muslim. We see very few marriage between Black, Arab, Asian, White Muslims. one short story : one of my friends told me that her parents would prefer her to marry a White man non-muslim rather than a Black Muslim Man.
These kind of reaction exists in all groups.
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4/28/2009 10:04:04 PM
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Nema Posts 1
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Well In my honest opinion its called holding out for just the right one. Lets just say that Im willing to take an iron ring as Mahr. And as long as his head does not spin all the way around, loves his family, and does not foam at the mouth. Can read and write and has no criminal record unless it was for handcuffing himself to a tree to fight clearcut logging I tend to be pretty flexible all I ask that he not live in Mommy's basement unless he is taking care of sick parents or is a student in University or college.
And for people who slam Black Muslims you might want to remember that Allah's Apostle's wives looked like the United Nations. Unless he is a Nation of Islam UFO cult worshipping freak waiting for Hitler to rise from the grave a Black Muslim or Asian Muslim should be judged by their deen and not the color of their skin. There is no race or color in Islam maybe some of the racist bigots might want to actually read the Hadiths stating that.
And when I heard fly Muslim I just rolled on the floor laughing. A husband or a wife is a person not a bank account or ATM machine on 2 legs or a fashion accessory. I go by deen and brains and humanity.
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5/16/2009 7:55:22 AM
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SkyHigh Posts 3
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salam brother and sister,
Is great to see that there is muslim connection online for brother and sister to know each other. First I'm glad to hear that I'm not alone when finding spouse, yet it is sad for us Muslim to have such difficulty. For me, not just finding spouse is hard, but just finding muslim friend is also challenging. I have been living in the same place for 20years, I have only 3 muslim friends while other friends are not muslim. Another sad thing is that, most of our sisters show no interest to know our muslim brothers. As many marriages has occured in my community which is in United States, I have seen all of our sisters decided to find someone that is not Muslim. I just don't know why. It is sad for muslim brothers and muslim in general. Maybe we just have too much influence of western culture or else our muslim brothers are not good enough for our sisters. edited by SkyHigh on 5/16/2009
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5/16/2009 8:07:19 AM
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SkyHigh Posts 3
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elmoro wrote:
many salams bros and sisters, I'm new here but i'm inspired by the discussion, i'd like to add a contribution.
I believe the answer to the finding the right partner is within the following:
1. Having a direct approach to the potential person: no external influence, a personal approach, do not evaluate person X based on person Y, and do not do it with the eutopian idea of a person Z. That's simply futile to a relationship. 2. Acknowledging the imperfections of ourselves, before we find imperfections in others 3. You must expect to give, as much as, you're going to take. Its all about compromise, the middle ground, the happy middle; there are many middle grounds but not all are happy, look for the sincerely happy one. 4. Do not judge, Allah is the only judge, people change, and we can never know the full truth, we have to trust, yes we can be lied to; but subhana Allah we can not know/calculate everything 5. Ask all the questions, but refrain from unfair grounds (the ones that mean nothing, but only hurt the heart, because you've an 'emotional' attachment to their answers. You know which ones they are) 6. Have standards, achievable ones, ranked from most important to least important. Do not get stuck in mapping people in an excel sheet, people and their attributes are much more than bullet-points. 7. Understand: people are different, its the way Allah made us, accept it, live it. 8. Remove your baggage, remove the veils of truth from your eyes, remove racism (why did Allah create so many different people and tribes? we know the answer, looking it up). 9. Just because someone is a muslim; it does not mean they are a representative of an imaginary partner in your mind. Look carefully, but do not get caught in looking, evaluate, rationalize, invest yourself in the matter, otherwise back to square 1. 10. Do not settle, but remember life on earth is temporary, and so is everything in it - do not waste your chances, but do not choose carelessly. If you seek, and pray for help, you'll get it. It is as simple as that. Allah does not change what's upon us; until we change what's inside us. If you know that you need to be a better muslim, man, woman or anything, then do not wait, do it. Pray for help and guidance in the process. Allah will answer you.
I'm one of you here, i wish us all khair, and i hope my contribution will enlighten someone, i know your contributions have enlightened me, thank you!
Salam edited by elmoro on 4/2/2009
Your reasoning number 9, maybe it is the answer to the behavior of our muslim sisters who have decided to find someone that is not muslim. Although I can use number 9 to find my special lady, but whenever I think about my future family with non-muslim spouse is challenging unless I have to give up of what I believe, which will be hard. That is the reason why I rather not use number 9. edited by SkyHigh on 5/16/2009 edited by SkyHigh on 5/16/2009
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5/16/2009 8:14:07 AM
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SkyHigh Posts 3
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dell_amin wrote:
I just wanna say you made the point. Women should start making the first step. Would be way better.
Assalam.
I disagree, but then it also depends on situation, but in general for our sisters to take first step that is no no.
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6/14/2009 2:39:03 PM
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PracticingMuslim Posts 1
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Nema wrote:
Well In my honest opinion its called holding out for just the right one. Lets just say that Im willing to take an iron ring as Mahr. And as long as his head does not spin all the way around, loves his family, and does not foam at the mouth. Can read and write and has no criminal record unless it was for handcuffing himself to a tree to fight clearcut logging I tend to be pretty flexible all I ask that he not live in Mommy's basement unless he is taking care of sick parents or is a student in University or college.
And for people who slam Black Muslims you might want to remember that Allah's Apostle's wives looked like the United Nations. Unless he is a Nation of Islam UFO cult worshipping freak waiting for Hitler to rise from the grave a Black Muslim or Asian Muslim should be judged by their deen and not the color of their skin. There is no race or color in Islam maybe some of the racist bigots might want to actually read the Hadiths stating that.
And when I heard fly Muslim I just rolled on the floor laughing. A husband or a wife is a person not a bank account or ATM machine on 2 legs or a fashion accessory. I go by deen and brains and humanity.
i approve of this message.
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6/28/2009 11:16:09 PM
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sayan Posts 2
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people expect a lot from the other person mean their wife every one need perfect one so thats why its hard to find wife
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10/13/2009 12:48:20 PM
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rainbow_angel Posts 4
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Salam wa leykum
i think it is not actually hard, but it is not right time.... why someone get married at 20 someone at 25 meets there soulmates in internet, Masjid or through relatives.... i think what we should do to find our soulmates is keep in our hearts sincere belief that Allah (swt) will send us soulmate, do appropriate things like inform relatives, muslim friends, internet and so on about our search, work, study and improve in our deen, and be patient...
especially in internet, some might have unpleasant experiences, with liars, those who pretend to be good Muslims, visa hunters, but those people shouldn't discourage faithful people from their search....cause Allah(swt) knows what is in our hearts, and if somebody hurt you Allah(swt) will always cure it when you have faith inside it
Love our deen and Allah and everything it brings to our life, and wish everyone to find that special ONE INSHALLAH!!!!!!!
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3/12/2010 3:14:59 AM
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sidique wrote:
I think many factors come in to play when looking for a mate. Just like brothers, sisters have some standards that they need to have met before marriage. While there are many brothers looking for the right mate, additional sisters are looking also, it is odd to me however, that I see brothers complain about the lack of finding a wife. When so many brothers are willing to over look the sisters that need husbands in their own communities. Yet, I find that when looking for a mate many people are not who they claim to be, which you would think would not be a issue as Muslims. I think it is best that brothers and sisters in Islam define clearly what they are looking for in a mate and also check their intentions for marriage. If everyone is running around looking for the perfect mate then they may be disappointed however.
You are absolutely right, most people especially women are concerned with outward qualities such that they will cherish these qualities so much that they would never see anyone that will meet up until when it is very late. People always want to eat their cake and have it. They want a woman/man who has every good qualities, and the best of qualities are the inner qualities.
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3/15/2010 10:22:13 AM
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Afshin Posts 1
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I dnt think dat nowadays it is difficult to find a wife but it is difficult to find a husband these days. Girls are in large number as compared to boys.
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7/8/2010 9:56:18 AM
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indonesianlady Posts 4
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Hi. I'm new here and honestly I didn't read all your posts in this thread. But I'd like to give some personal insights regarding why is it difficult for me to find a husband, despite the fact that I live in the country with the highest Muslim population in the whole world.
First, I don't like smokers, while almost 90% of male in my country are smokers.
Second, I must admit that I don't want anyone who is less than me in social status, education, and payment. I want to be a housewife once I got married, and financial security is my biggest concern. I'm not a gold digger or materialistic person, but I do want the best for my children, and we all know that children are expensive to maintain.
Third, I also must admit that when I'm looking for a guy, I do take physical appearance as my consideration. Marriage is my only way to be able to have sex with a guy, and I can't imagine having sex with a guy that I don't feel physically attracted to.
Fourth, I'm a very logical person. You might think it's funny, but most guys that I met always told me that they feel less masculine in front of me because apparently they are more emotional than me. I'm not boyish or masculine or something like that, but I think it is because I'm more dominant, assertive, decisive, and logical comparing to the average guys in my surrounding. In fact, I consider most of guys as idiots.
Fifth, it is very hard to find a guy who understand the real meaning of "marriage for Allah". I want a guy who is not just a Muslim, but a guy who loves Allah so much, he wanted to marry so he will have a partner to work together as a team in reaching for Allah's love. Not just an average Muslim guy who became a Muslim because he was born as a Muslim and grew up in a Muslim family.
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8/8/2010 5:01:32 PM
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BECUASE YOU CANT APPROCH A MUSLIM WOMEN!
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8/16/2010 5:27:13 AM
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aziipk Posts 1
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I am also new to this site, but i want to add also somthing in the que. I know that This topic is difficult for many,yes it is scometimes very difficult to find suitable match. why? there are many reasons. first of all, the major reason is ideal. Many of us have an ideal, we try a lot to find the same as we have in our mind. due to this, the age of the men,women increased. this is also a major cause.
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8/22/2010 10:28:52 PM
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Farid68 Posts 1
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aziipk wrote:
I am also new to this site, but i want to add also somthing in the que. I know that This topic is difficult for many,yes it is scometimes very difficult to find suitable match. why? there are many reasons. first of all, the major reason is ideal. Many of us have an ideal, we try a lot to find the same as we have in our mind. due to this, the age of the men,women increased. this is also a major cause.
Salamoun Alaykom,
I would like to have an input to this. There is no trust any more, we live in an age full of deception, one doesnt know any more who is sincere and who is not. How many out there fear Allah? yes there are lots of muslims, but how many faithful ones? how many struggle to get up at Fajr to pray? I can not answr for everyone, but everyone knows himself and herself, once you can answer for yourself, then ask yourself: can you be trusted? :-) If you want get to married, marry someone who fears Allah, because that person can be trusted.
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10/14/2010 8:26:25 AM
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bellabookworm wrote:
I think that finding a spouse is a difficult challenge. I personally know that I don't want to make a mistake and marry the wrong person. I know that there are going to be difficulties, disagreements and fights even in a marriage. I think when we talk about marrying someone from our local Ummah.. it can be difficult. I know I don't like knowing that everyone at my masjid knows that I am on the market for a husband- I feel like a bug under a microscope. I'd prefer to keep things more private. I also struggle in being an American revert with individuals being so stuck on marrying a person of specific culture or region. I also get weirded out when I read about men looking for a "white" american muslim.. yikes! So I think there are a bunch of issues.. but ultimately we should just follow the prophets example marry people for their deen first everything else is second.
Well put sister. You have hit the nail in the head. Alot of brothers and sisters are looking for others reasons first and deen as an extra dish on the side, i meann extra as in plus. And later when things go wrong the start blame the deen. I wonder why good practicing brother have the most problem in finding a wife? one bad apply make the rest of the apples look bad, thats what had happen in the reason years. but we should look that the person deen first like the sister had stated and not worry about how rich, or if they are a doctor or a lawyer.
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10/14/2010 8:35:14 AM
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asalamu alaykum here is my two cent inshallah...
"the Prophet (greetings and peace be upon him) told `Umar, shall I tell you the best a man can treasure? It is a good wife. If he looks at her, she gives him pleasure; if he orders her, she obeys; and if he is away from her, she remains faithful to him". [Transmitted by Abu Dawud]
The Prophet (greetings and peace be upon him) said, "The world is delightful and its greatest treasure is a good woman". [Transmitted by Muslim on the authority of Abdullah Ibn Amr
The Prophet (greetings and peace be upon him) also said, "Four things if granted to any person, he is granted the best of the world and the afterlife: a thankful heart, a tongue that mentions Allah, a body that patiently endures misfortune, and a wife that does not seek his betrayal or his money. [Al-Haythamy ]
The world and all things in the world are precious but the most precious thing in the world is a virtuous woman. The Prophet(SAW) once told Umar (ra): "Shall I not inform you about the best treasure a man can hoard? It is a virtuous wife who pleases him whenever he looks towards her, and who guards herself when he is absent from her."
Some qualities of a Good Muslim Wife~
A good wife is one who is true to her husband’s word if he adjures her to do something. On a husband’s return home, a wife should receive him kindly and meet him with a good and beautiful appearance. She should try not to neglect her husband’s needs nor ignore his demands. The more a wife takes care of her husband, the more she will be loved. Most husbands consider their wives care of them as an expression of their love.
From the viewpoint of Islam, a good wife is considered to be the best thing in the world. This accords her a special position, and places responsibility on the husband to treat her according to this elevated position. The role of the wife in the marriage is extremely important, indeed it is the decisive factor.
Wives must do their best to keep their husbands pleased with them. The ideal wife combines in herself three merits; she pleases her husband when he sees her, by taking care to appear beautiful before him; she obeys him when he gives a command; she does not go against his wishes regarding her person or property.
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10/20/2010 9:33:16 PM
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muslima070 Posts 1
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Salam to all, I think ladies face a similar problem in finding a good spouse. For me the main trouble I have is that many muslim men out there are not practicing muslims. Some smoke, some drink alcohol and many do not pray the 5 solat . Also some do not fast in ramadan.
If you think about praying 5 times a day and fasting in the month of ramadan is just the two basics of the five basics requirements in islam. But I find it is tough to get some one like that instead the men who want to marry, admit they are lazy to do their prayers, so I have no choice to turn down their proposal as I am afraid that if I choose a spouse who does not pray he will be bad influence on me and our future children.
Alllah knows best,
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